Stand Up Islam- Part Deux!

Sharon Horgan, host of a BBC show "Have I Got News For You" is catching
a lot of flak from islamic officials for a (possibly) tasteless joke
that she told on her show.

"The Independent described the Dostoevsky metro station... as the Mecca
for suicides. Not to be confused with the Mecca of suicide bombers -
which is Mecca."

First off, that IS funny!

Not because I paint all Muslims as suicide bombers, but because it is a clever play on words and the unpalatable fact that the suicide bombers in the news are Muslim. Clearly no one with a modicum of sense believes that all Muslims are suicide bombers, but Mecca IS the direction that the newsworthy suicide bombers pray towards.

Second, there is irony in the protests, because those who are offended by this are threatening HER. If this doesn't represent the stereotype more than her joke did, then I'll eat a cat. (and I like cats a lot)

Third, (and most important!) if Muslims across the world are more upset by this joke than those Muslims dragging Islam's rep through the mud by being suicide bombers for Allah, then their priorities are pretty mixed up. Use this sort of comment as fuel to publically attack those organizations and show the world that Islam will not stand for violence in it's name. Why must we only hear of Islam's offense when there is a cartoon drawn, a joke made, a movie released, women defended, or bikini's worn?



Stop implying we are violent...OR I'LL KILL YOU!

Stand up Islam!





Stand up and tell the Muslim world that your leaders will no longer put up with such vile acts. (if you can get them off the news talking about vile things that is)

Stand up against Sharia laws that subjugate women and call for the death penalty for the simplest of crimes. Stand up and disavow Islam with violent protests and call the protesters offensive.

Stand up and show the world how little you appreciate your own members acting in such a way.

THIS would be the way for Islam to clean up it's world image. By staying relatively silent on these crimes that should be far more eggregious than simple jokes and cartoons, they give silent permission to those who ACTUALLY damage the way that the world perceives them.

If they are offended, they should direct their ire in the right direction.

Shouldn't their voices be the loudest each time a bomb sounds killing innocents in their name, or at every protest where "Kill the Infidel" signs are displayed by Muslims, or at the very mention of beating or
stoning women? If they were really concerned about being seen as a peaceful religion, shouldnt' they be first in line fighting Sharia law in many of it's forms?

I am pretty sure that no one would answer "No" to that.

Aren't there acid scarred women, stoned reporters, bomb victims, that need those voices supporting their cause?

If they are so concerned about their reputations, shouldn't they have better things to rail against?

So why I am only hearing them ring in the media in response to a harmless comedian?

You decide...

Headline Cartoon found here

Stand up Islam!

New Zealand’s Building Minister Maurice Williamson has landed himself in hot water with the Islamic community for cracking a joke about the practice of stoning during a speech at a building industry awards ceremony last month. The Federation of Islamic Associations New Zealand feels that they are unfairly characterized by such insensitive and stereotyping comments. 

My question is;

Where is the outrage at Islam being unfairly characterized by the large sect of the Muslims in fundamental countries who actually perform these terrible actions under the banner of Islam?

Why isn’t THAT the more heinous crime?

Why doesn’t Anwar Ghani (the Federations President) hear comments like the ones the minister made and think;

 “If only the fundamental Islamic countries would stop such immoral, misogynistic, and hateful practices we wouldn’t be so unfairly characterized by the world at large.”

Instead, he thinks;

 “The Minister is espousing religious intolerance by painting us all in a negative light for the actions of those who do such things.”

On the surface I can understand this thinking, but here is the problem.

The people who do, and support this sort of thing are not few in number. 
They are not from extremist sects.
They are not from the fringe of their religion.

They are from the fundamental countries that represent Islam on a world stage.
They are from the nations that gave birth to Islam, and from whom their religious dogma flows.
They are representative of the central and world wide Muslim community.

In short they are exactly the people that we should be garnering our impressions of their religion.

If Muslims feel that they are being poorly represented by such remarks, then maybe they should send a letter to the political leaders in the fundamental Islamic nations instead and decry the acceptance of such practices as “against the spirit of their faith” or just plain immoral.


Moderate Muslims from across the world should be standing up in protest against the terrible crimes that are being committed in the name of their religion.
They should be striving to escape the stereotypes by displaying utter intolerance for the evils that take place in Islam in the countries of it's origin.
They should be publicly saying "No" and examining the Qur'an to make the same excuses that Christians make about the evils of their book.
That it is a medieval book written by medieval men, and not to be taken literally any longer.
Their voice should be crying the loudest in opposition to the crimes committed in their name, instead of saving its volume to defensively cry "foul", "unfair", and "stereotype" when people across the world notice those crimes.



Wouldn’t this be more productive than merely asking offended people worldwide to ignore all the terrible things done in the name of their religion and let everyone live free of “unfair” judgment?

If they would express offense over the archaic rituals of the fundamental and central Islamic cultures first and with the goal of ridding the world of such terrible influences, then and only then, would they have a right to express offense at being “unfairly characterized”.

And really….

Who is characterizing Islam to a higher degree?

Is it Minister Maurice Williamson with an broad stroke and stereotyping comment about Islamic atrocities, or is it those Muslims living in the countries that gave birth to Islam and who allow, condone and perpetrate such evil acts?

I think that you know the answer.

Let’s hope that Islam discovers it soon too.






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Cartoon found here

"Contemplating the Quran" OR "The house that hate built"

With all of the criticism Islam extremists are facing you might think that another diatribe about their evils isn't necessary. I contend that they haven't faced enough and that there is nothing MORE necessary in our political climate than one honest examination of Islam "extremism".

In the current political climate of religious safety from criticism it is practically impossible to protect ourselves from extremists in the world. This is because we are finding fault with all the wrong things. We look at the world trade centre bombing and say that the suicide bombers were clearly insane. We look at mothers and children who hate Jews dogmatically and say that it is a lack of education. We see women being treated as chattel and subservient as they are killed and abused for the "honour" of their families and excuse it as being cultural. We hear about hatred of the western world and determine that comes from poverty and war. What we DON'T hear about is criticism of the belief that was the impetus for those acts.
These people aren't insane, they are faithful. They aren't undereducated; they are educated with the hate in the Quran. They aren't honouring their families because of culture; they are blindly killing for Allah. They aren't victims; they are merely obedient and faithful in their belief in absolute terms of their divine mission to submit the world to Islam.

The fact is these people are no more insane, no more undereducated, no more underprivileged and no more bound by culture to do evil than we are. What they are bound to is a fundamentalist and immoral dogma that is held as unassailable by our sensibilities and our media. Well, the pass on critique stops here.

No more will we judge individuals as the problem for the edicts of a faith that drives them to evils by pain of eternal damnation. Here we will face Islam head on and discuss why some Muslims do the things that they do. If faced with the threat of eternal punishment and indoctrinated into a mindset that tells us fighting for the precepts in the Quran are the only absolute morality, who wouldn't do the terrible things that some extremists do? (Especially when you are convinced by divine revelation that these things are not terrible but, in fact, righteous)

"Wait", I can hear readers saying, "isn't Islam a religion of peace?"
The answer is no it is not. It is no more a religion of peace than is Christianity. Just as the bible orders to kill atheists, sassy children, wearers of muti-fabric clothing, people of poor attention spans in church, babies of apostates, and those who don't believe as you do, the Quran has its own set of rules for killing. The difference is that those rules are adhered to by fundamentalist with a fervour for literal dogma that is hard to find in other religions.

Still not convinced? Let's take a look at some of the mandates that the Quran instructs Muslims originate from a higher and absolute morality.

The Quran on tolerance

Disbelievers will be burned with fire.- 2:39, 2:90

We have revealed unto thee clear tokens, and only miscreants will disbelieve in them. -2:99

Slay them wherever ye find them -2:191

The strange admonishment of homosexual behaviour is that it only seems to mind when MEN do it. It is very clear in defining that it is male homosexuality that is the abomination. (26:165-6, 27:54-55, 29:28-29)
This would seem to suggest that Allah hates gays, but he thinks that lesbians are the shit. I guess he was thinking ahead when making the male dominated culture of Muslims. If men are going to rule, then they are going to need a good source of entertainment (They would also need sole dominion over the remote, but they don't seem to touch on that in the Quran OR the Haddiths. Slight oversight sorry Allah)


The list of dooms, and admonishments towards non believers (who are Christians, Jews and Atheists) is so extensive that I won't bore you with it, but you get the point. It is certainly not a tenet of Islam to tolerate the presence of those who believe differently than they do. Even in the Haddiths, Muhammad was only tolerant of Jews until they rejected his teachings, and thus begins the paving of a long road of Muslim hatred of the Jews.

So they haven't scored high marks on tolerance, but does that differentiate them from other religions when each of them thinks that they are the sole path to salvation? Maybe not, lets go on...

The Quran on maturity... (or "What is Allah, like 5??")

Allah mocks the unbelievers 2:15

Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden 7:44

Wretched is the likeness of folk who deny the revelations of Allah. 62:5

There will come a day when Allah will refuse all prayers and help no one. 2:48

Seriously?!? In this we see that Allah might actually be a celestial 5 year old, mocking and taunting those people who do not offer him validation. Very difficult to take a god seriously who looks down on people who don't worship him and instead of offering wisdom to convert or elucidate them, he only offers comments like "You're UGLY!" (62:5) or "You're STUPID!!" (2:15), or "Hot enough for ya, IN HELL?" (7:44) and my personal favourite "you want help? NOPE! Too late, hahaha" (2:48). All of this is aside from the childish and ubiquitous "Oh, that is a very interesting and opposing opinion you have there. (to followers) -KILL HIM!!! OR you can hold off on killing him and I will torture him later in hell (while I mock him), your choice."
Where are his parents anyway? I remember having to teach my 4 year old not to talk to people like that but I guess when you are a Deity there is no need for politeness of maturity (as you kill or order killed everyone who doesn't agree).
After we look at his views of women too we might say that his hatred comes from a bit of an Oedipus Complex, but I digress.

Which brings us to;

The Quran on women...

Menstruation is a sickness (2:222)

Women have rights that are similar to men, but men are "a degree above them." (2:228)


Males are to inherit twice that of females. (4:11)


You may not forcibly inherit women, unless they flagrantly lewd. (4:19)
(you can rape women if they are lewd??? SO, this means that you can be even lewder, more base and violent if they are a bit crass. Is this why the large immigration to Britain and America? Large groups of women who are crass because they are not Islamic, and therefor available for Allah given happy fun time? )

You don't have to be modest around your wives or your slave girls "that your right hand possess." (23:6) (note the acceptance of slaves)

Women are feeble and are unable to devise a plan. (4:98)


Men are in charge of women, because Allah made men to be better than women (4:34)


Lot offers his daughters to a mob of angel rapers. (15:71)-Meh they are property anyway.

Allah's rules for divorcing wives that have not yet reached puberty. (65:4) (note that Allah doesn't mind marrying girls younger than 12)

Finally and most important- As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them (4:34)




Misogyny is the second most pervasive attitude in Islam (after violence and Anti Semitism) and it is what keeps Muslim women from understanding their own oppression. Apostasy is punishable by death, and Allah commands that they be subservient. They are brainwashed into accepting their own oppression and servitude. It is a sad, sad state that speaks against the strength of Muslim men who believe it. Only a weak, insecure and sad man feels the need to be master of a woman and only a weak and immoral man would lay a hand on a woman, especially one he is supposed to love.

To me this is the most telling attitude amongst Muslims. It speaks for itself. Muslim men can't abide "their" women dressing as they wish, because chaos would ensue from poor weak minded men giving into a biological and divine imperative to rape them. (4:19)

I know that this is going long, but there is SO much to talk about. One more?

The Quran on Anti-Semitic hate

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. (2:96)

For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. (4:160-1)

Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. (7:167)

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. (9:34)

These sentiments are augmented by the Haddiths when they reject Muhammad's teachings and the anti-semitic sentiment continues unabated even today in countries all over the world. In its search for dominion over the minds of the world, Islam stands alone as the religion who seeks to take away our freedoms and our ability to speak and believe as we choose. 60 nations currently have given into the UNs weak Anti blasphemy resolution (although 56 of them are from the Islamic council). This is a clear and present danger to our freedoms and our wellbeing if we can't criticise the root evil of some of the most terrible issues of our times. That being unreasoning faith in an evil and immoral book.

In my readings of the Quran I have discovered only this. Allah is a weak, Oedipus complex suffering, childish, insecure, intolerant, anti-semitic, violent and unforgiving deity and we would do best to recognize that when making excuses for those who do harm in society. Lets recognize the real reason that there is Islamic terror and violence in the world. It is not the poverty, it is not the level of education, it is not the culture (although the culture is driven by the religion) it is the strident and unquestionable faith in a book that holds no wisdom for any save themselves. For all others there is death, doom and hellfire. For those who fight and die for Islam, there are rewards in the afterlife of wide eyed women and honour for the families left behind. (Remember the women who die in service of the Quran? They must get wide eyed women too, as we know what Allah thinks about lesbians.)

I will leave you by borrowing a sentiment from Richard Dawkins. When examining the evils of the world, lets place the blame where it belongs, and "lets not forget the elephant in the room, and elephant called religion" or in this case, Islam.


Peace